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When There Was a Catastrophe Which Has Marked Change of the Old and New Worlds. Comparison of Legends and Geological Data

Great catastrophes

There were two Catastrophes!

Reconstructed in the previous part according to legends of the different people the scenario of catastrophe which led to change of the old and new worlds, is surprisingly similar to reconstructed by me in work «Great catastrophes in the history of Earth» the scenario of the majority of catastrophes occurring at change of geological epochs. At the same time, it differs from them by repetition of the same events (volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, a flood, etc.) before and after a conditional reference point for which I took emergence of the Moon in the sky. On the basis of it it is possible to assume that the events considered in work characterize not one, and two catastrophes following one after another which were divided by the period of existence of the polar Earth consisting of light and dark half, and vegetation and life revival on its light half.
From one only legends can't be understood, this period what is the time proceeded – it could last some tens of thousands, hundred thousands and millions years. Therefore for dating of the first and second accident doesn't remain anything else how to compare folklore and geological data. I did this tough and tiresome job in books «
Battles of ancient gods» and «Earth before the flood – the world of sorcerers and werewolves» and placed representative excerpts from them (the truth, while only with reference to North and South America) on the site in the section «Five world epochs and mankinds of the Maya, Naya and Aztecs» (works «What is the time proceeded the world epochs of the Maya, Nауа and Aztecs?» and «When was change of the Third and Fourth world epochs and mankinds of the Maya, Nауа and Aztecs?»). Therefore at once I will pass to the results received by me and conclusions, sending you, if necessary to primary sources.


The first catastrophe -  catastrophe at a turn of the Paleogene and the Neogene (23 million years ago), the second catastrophe – catastrophe at a boundary of the early and middle Miocene (16 million years ago)


As I wrote in the previous work «Legends and hypotheses about a lunar rabbit, charning of the ocean, spinning up of the firmamemt (vault of heaven), origin of the Moon and connection of the Moon with death and immortality - the description of catastrophes at the boundaries between the Third and Fourth and the Fourth and Fifth world epochs, acquisitions of modern appearence by Earth and emergence of the modern person - Homo Sapiens» in the section «Comparison of subjects and legends about a lunar rabbit, charning of the ocean, spinning up of the firmanent, formation of the Moon and connection of the Moon with death and immortality among themselves and reconstruction carried out by me earlier. Conclusions», the considered period covered two catastrophes, which on terminology of Aztecs, marked itself change of the Third and Fourth world epochs (when the world was lost on fire) and the Fourth and Fifth world epochs (when the sky fell to the ground and the world was flooded with water). In the book «Earth before the flood – the world of sorcerers and werewolves» and the section «Five world epochs and mankinds of the Maya, Nауа and Aztecs» I dated the first catastrophe by a turn of the Paleogene and the Neogene (23 million years ago), and the second catastrophe – a boundary of the early and middle Miocene (16 million years ago) . Therefore, the period of existence of polar Earth with light and dark half should proceed about 7 or 8 million years.

Earth with dark and light half existed in the early Miocene (23-16 million years ago)


Covering a mind such huge period, it is difficult to imagine that events occurring on all its extent can be characterized by only several phrases in legends – burning Earth, earthquakes, a flood, revival of vegetation, war of gods and demons, … But, let's remember for a start, whether bear in itself information of the legend on events after emergence and arrangement of the new world much? When reading "Popol-Vukh" I was surprised more than once that the history of ancestors of the Maya sharply breaks after sunrise and the moon and then is as though made a fresh start – already during a historical era. The same scraps of history can be tracked and in the Chinese chronology between eras of board of legendary emperors … as though from it whole chapters were pulled out. Even in the fullest Indian legends very few place is allocated for antediluvian events, and they are usually limited only to pair of phrases. And the main actions – fights between Pandavans and Kauravas – are developed already rather recently, apparently, during a glacial era.
And that is written in "Popol-Vukh" about Kabrakan and Sipakn and that is told in legends of Indians hopi about long cooling down Earth,
allows to compare Earth after the first catastrophe with modern Venus. But after all, you see, for dispersion of 400-degree Venusian"smog" and vegetation revival on Venus one ten can be demanded not, hundred thousands, and can be and millions years. While anybody at all doesn't assume about such possibility – means, nobody believes that Venus can become a manned planet in the next tens of thousands, hundreds thousands and even the first millions years

Earth comparison at the beginning of early Miocene (23-16 million years ago) with Venus allows to come out with two very interesting assumptions.

First. Despite everything fallen upon Earth at a turn of the Paleogene and Neogene (24 or 23 million years ago) misfortunes and death in catastrophe of the majority of animals and ancestors of people, the part from them somehow escaped and . On a dark half of Earth ancestors of people could live underground 7 or 8 million years. It allows to assume, as under a surface of Venus today there can live reasonable beings who were compelled to leave there during the catastrophe which has slowed down rotation of this planet.
Secondly, the charning of the ocean carried out by gods and  spinning up of the heavenly arch as a result of which Earth began to rotate quicker and life on it revived, testifies to correctness made me in work the "Phaeton, Mars, Earth – the following Venus» assumptions that life on Venus can revive as a result of dot blow on it, and Venus can become a planet with reserve life for people on Earth.


We also shouldn't forget that former inhabitants of Earth were long-livers and duration of their life at the beginning of the Fourth world era, apparently, made 10 000 years. About it the Indian legends testify to life expectancy of people in the Treta-Yuga and the comparison of the Third and Fourth world eras of Aztecs carried out by me with Treta-Yuga (by my calculations in work «History repeats itself through 150 million years. About equivalence of Atztec and Maya's world epochs and Indian Yugas and about existence of reasonable life in the Carboniferous, Ordovician and other periods» the Treta-Yuga proceeded from 31,452 to 15,9 million years ago). And if gods, demons and far ancestors of people were long-livers, and events of their life should proceed absolutely with other speed.
At last, between
the Paleogene-Neogene and the early-middle Miocene catastrophes no other serious shocks testified by geologists early. And it is telling argument of that the period between two catastrophes described in work proceeded all early Miocene, that is 7 or 8 million years.


Check 1. The geology confirms – catastrophe were 23 and 16 million years ago


It is necessary to make sure only that the first catastrophe corresponded to change of the Third and Fourth world epochs of Aztecs, and the second catastrophe – change of the Fourth and Fifth world epochs of Aztecs.
About the first
catastrophe of doubts I haven't enough. All the Oligocene epoch preceding it (34-24 or 23 million years ago), called me «the small Golden Age», was characterized by intermediate conditions between warm and damp "Golden Age" (and here) of the Palaeocene and Eocene (65,5-34 million years ago) and «the Cenozoic glacial era» (actually begun 23 million years ago), almost vertical arrangement of a terrestrial axis and more or less warm uniform climate on all Earth. It means that the water and steam cover partially destroyed during the Eocene-Oligocene catastrophe remained on it and there were no hints on existence of light and dark half.
Formation on Earth of climatic zonality, the North and the South (or four parts of the world) and a freezing of its northern areas was one of the main results of the second catastrophe. This event is quite surely documented in the geological chronicle of Earth.
So, according to drilling of oceanic precipitation
s and researches of coastal deposits, in the middle-late Miocene (16-10 million years ago, according to different researchers) there were first ice covers (seasonal sea ices) in the Arctic Ocean. Approximately during the same time there was the first considerable freezing of the northeast coast of Alaska (about 13 million years ago). Apparently, the ice cover in Greenland though it was not possible to find exact data on time of the beginning of a freezing of Greenland to me even earlier was formed. Approximately during the same time the area of glaciers in Antarctica considerably increased.
All these data confirm the conclusion
made by me earlier that the second catastrophe, marked itself change of the old and new worlds, fitted (fell on) the boundary of the early and middle Miocene (16 million years ago). Some uncertainty in definition of age of glacial deposits is quite natural – even boundaries of different epochs of the Paleogene and Neogene are dated with a margin error from 2 to 4 million years, and glacial deposits usually represent "mute" - faunae and flora  remains not containing strata - and to date them improbably difficult.


Check 2. The geology confirms - Earth with dark and light half existed with 23 to 16 million years ago

One more interesting detail attracts attention. The freezing of Antarctica began much earlier, than a freezing of the Arctic – at a boundary of the Eocene and  Oligocene (34 million years ago). At the beginning of Miocene (24 or 23 million years ago) there was a new strong freezing of Antarctica, and during the whole remained time the most part of this continent was covered with ice though the area of glaciers several times essentially changed. The boundary of the early and middle Miocene was (16 million years ago) one of such short-term episodes of essential expansion of the area of glaciers of Antarctica, synchronous to the beginning of a freezing of the Arctic, also.
And now ponder. In
the early Miocene (23-16 million years ago) the freezing captured only Antarctica. During the same time temperature of a surface water in low and high latitudes, according to I.A.Basov (1997), differed slightly and in the basins of the Arctic subtropical or even tropical conditions were noted . It almost definitely speaks about other orientation of geographical and climatic zones of Earth and its axis.
The warm North and the cold South - whether is seen by you in it analogies to legends about Earth consisting of light and dark half? A light half fell on its northern or northeast part, and dark – on the southern or southwest part in which were Antarctica, South America, and apparently, a part of North America, which situation then differed from modern (remember the Akkadian legend about the southern wind).
Such arrangement of climatic zones, apparently, was characteristic only for the early Miocene and didn't extend on the Oligocene (34-23 million years ago). Results of researches Kathryn Moran from University Rod Aylend (USA), Jan Backman from the Stockholm University and Henk Brinkhuis from University of Utrecht (Holland)  testify to it, which consider that as a result of the Eocene-Oligocene catastrophe (34 million years ago) occurred not only a freezing of Antarctica, but also formation of seasonal ices in the Arctic. In the Oligocene snow in high and even middle northern latitudes began to drop out. And it is the certificate of that in the Oligocene the terrestrial axis settled down approximately also, as well as now.
And here in
the early Miocene in moderate northern latitudes mid-annual temperatures 9-14 ° are fixed with which essentially went down after the early-middle Eocene catastrophe.


One more confirmation of existence of other geographical and climatic zones in the early Miocene

I will quote into the conclusion an extract from I.A.Basov's work «Ocean and climatic evolution in the Miocene» (1997) which, in my opinion, confirms and supplements stated above:

«The average Miocene is noted by events which radically transformed a global situation at the ocean and climate, led to considerable changes in distribution  of superficial biots and a precipitation. At this particular time there was formed the modern circulation which is characterized by considerable vertical and longitude temperature gradients and a defining role of the water masses which is forming in high-altitude areas of the Southern and Atlantic oceans. In different zones according to isotope data synchronous shifts are fixed towards a cold snap.
Thus the increase in heavy isotopes of oxygen is observed in shells both planktonic, and benthos types. It testifies to rapid growth at this time ice volume in Antarctica which as shows the analysis, occurred in two stages: 14.5-14 and 13.5-12.5 million years ago. During these periods the ice cover in East Antarctica which volume during the subsequent eras underwent only minor changes was finally created. The beginning of rapid growth of an ice shield in the southern polar region coincided with East Tetis's closing and the termination of free water exchange between all oceans in the equatorial area

The second event with which these cardinal changes are connected, - emergence at the beginning of the middle Miocene of deep-water communication between the Norwegian-Greenland basin and Northern Atlantic and intensive formation of North Atlantic deep water weight. It begans after immersion of the Faeroe-Island threshold at a boundary of the early and middle Miocene. From now on North Atlantic water in large volumes extends to the south along the American continent and then, mixing up in high widths of the Southern Atlantic with the Antarctic deep water weight which is forming mainly in the Weddell Sea, gets through the Indian Ocean into a southwest part of the Pacific Ocean, from where flows to the north, reaching the Aleutian island arch. Here deep waters rise by a surface and by currents are transferred back to Northern Atlantic, forming, thus, global circulation, the so-called conveyor of the Broker 5.

These two interconnected events (sharp increase in volume of ice in Antarctica and the beginning of intensive formation of North Atlantic water weight) predetermined all further evolution of the ocean and climate of the planet. Formation led at this time systems of the circulation which is essentially similar with modern, to steady stratification of water masses and development of sharp temperature gradients. If in the early Miocene of temperature of a surface water in low and high latitudes differed slightly, by the Miocene end in the Pacific Ocean the gradient between temperatures of waters on the equator and in pri-antarktic areas made 12 °. Growth of gradients was accompanied by an intensification both superficial, and benthonic circulation that was reflected in a wide circulation at oceans of breaks in sedimentation. Consequences of these events  were most considerably shown in global distribution of planktonic microorganisms and a precipitation».


Well and, absolutely at last. Here that the known creationist, the geologist, the doctor of philosophy Andrew Snelling from Australia writes in the article on geology of Israel:
«It seems more reasonable to place the Flood/post-Flood boundary in the geologic record of Israel, coinciding with Noah disembarking the Ark, in the Oligocene, or at the end of the Oligocene depending on which time point coincides with Noah disembarking from the Ark. This placement of the boundary still requires some residual local geologic activity to have rapidly occurred in Israel (tectonic adjustments, erosion, sedimentation and volcanic eruptions) during the early decades of the post-Flood period before post-Babel people migrated into the land ahead of Abraham’s subsequent arrival».
If to tell in brief,
A.Snelling considers that Great or Noah the flood occurred in Israel at the end of the Oligocene (about 23 million years ago), and the early after-flood period was accompanied by tectonic and volcanic activity after which the first Sumers and Babylonians came to Israel. And with it it is difficult to argue, because the geology confirms such time of the Great flood and in many other places of Earth – in South and North America, Eurasia, China, …
Actually, there was not one, but two Great floods – at
the Oligocene and Miocene boundary (23 million years ago) and at a boundary of the early and middle Miocene (16 or 15,9 million years ago) which were divided by the period of slowly rotating Earth consisting of light and dark half. I wrote about it two years ago in the book «Earth before the flood – the world of sorcerers and werewolves». This my work excellent confirmed the conclusions drawn by me then. But...
Some sow
ed in work "5 184 000 - 12 500 years ago - lifetime of modern mankind from Creation of the world to the Flood. Once again about comparison of mythological history to a geochronological scale" doubts about time of the biblical or Noachic flood forced me to consider once again this question in following, final, parts of work and to come to conclusion that neither that, nor another Miocene Great floods weren't the Noachic flood. The Noachic flood occurred at the Miocene and Pliocene boundary (5,3 million years ago), and then life expectancy of people decreased from 1000 to 120 years, and in the Bible data on two or three different floods are apparently merged - occurred during creation of the world and at rescue Aching. Between them and after them there was still a set of floods, but any of these floods, apparently, wasn't such strong to be postponed in memory of mankind (or then there were no people to postpone in memory).


Beginning/Continuation "Once again about time of Creation of the world and the biblical (Noachic) Flood. The amendments brought by geology and folklore"


©  A Koltypin, 2012
©  A Fennel, 2012 (translation)

We, A. Koltypin the author of this work, and A.Fennel the translator of this work, give permission to use this for any purpose except prohibited by applicable law, on condition that our authorship and hyperlink to the site http://earthbeforeflood.com is given.

Strongly recommend you to read my work "Legends and hypothesis about a lunar rabbit, churning of the ocean, spinning up of the firmament (vault of heaven), origin of the Moon and connection of the Moon with death and immortality - the description of catastrophes at the boundaries between the Third and Fourth and the Fourth and Fifth world epochs, acquisition of modern appearance by  Earth and emergence of the modern person - Homo Sapiens", which complements the study, and also a series of my works  "How long did the Maya, Nahua and Aztecs  world epochs last?" and "When was change of the Third and Fourth world epochs and mankinds  (humankinds) of the Maya, Nahua and Aztecs?"
Read also my work about the time of existence above land of water-vapor cover (envelope) "Paleocene-Eocene - the Golden Age of Mankind (Humanity)" Translated into English and my work "Catastrophes and alteration of climate in the Miocene"

 
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